Great! I think that I'll have to try more often to take pics of people going on their bikes in Sevilla...though, i'm not used to it and the pics are quite blur or not focused :-P
Take a close look to the tiny instant at minute 2.42 of the video. There you can see an anonymous cyclist properly riding his bike on the road like the rest of the vehicles. There he can go as fast a he can (or traffic permits), using his right to use the public roadway and attending to his duties as a driver of a vehicle. Meanwhile the second class citizen that is the main character using the bike paths on the sidewalk has to be shown on fast forward to make it look as if he is going fast, because of course he can not go fast on such a dangerous facility. If he did, he could crash with a pedestrian, another cyclist or a car at an intersection. I find the fact that the camera falls at the end of the video pretty ironic.
ah, the quirky vehicular cycling theory. a nice idea but it is, and always will be, a theory. A male-dominated theory driven by macho codes.
There is nowhere in the world where this theory is seen in practice. On the other hand, there are 100 million people who cycle daily in Europe, by and large on safe, separated infrastructure.
If you want large percentages of a population to cycle and reap the personal and societal benefits, all you have to do is follow the Best Practice that has been established and proven.
Fortunately cities around the world are now working towards this common goal - increasing trips by bicycle and doing so with bicycle-friendly infrastructure.
> ah, the quirky vehicular cycling theory. a nice idea but it is, and always will be, a theory.
Well, the term vehicular cycling might be new. However people have always been riding bicycles even in the absence of bike lanes or bike paths. As far as the law here in Spain is concerned bicycles are considered vehicles. The ministry of traffic collects accident statistics and the bicycle shows up in there. In fact I think you got it wrong, first it was people riding, then someone wrote about the common used techniques and developed what you might call "a theory".
> A male-dominated theory driven by macho codes.
right, they call me Rambo and the roads here are the Vietnamese jungle. Every driver is crazy and is out to kill me. As you know there are no rules in that jungle.
> There is nowhere in the world where this theory is seen in practice.
Well except here in Madrid where I ride to work every day, and that guy in the video in Seville that you can barely see for a fraction of a second. Seriously, as I said before, people have always ridden bicycles, it is not a new thing only possible because of bike lanes.
> On the other hand, there are 100 million people who cycle daily in Europe, by and large on safe, separated infrastructure.
I am very interested to know where you got that number, please. You know it is pretty hard to come by with bike statistics I would really appreciate it.
> If you want large percentages of a population to cycle and reap the personal and societal benefits,
Actually what worries me most is to be able to keep riding my bike safely. If they built a bike path next to the road that I use, it would make the road narrower, hence more dangerous to share with a car. They might even force me by legal means to use the bike path instead of the road that has nice asphalt and is well maintained (as it has happened for instance in Barcelona). Why in the world would I want that?
> all you have to do is follow the Best Practice that has been established and proven.
How about the goal to get any actual safety? Aren't you concerned about that at all?
a year and a half after of this post with a video in Seville i say from seville to continue the conversation of comments...
first: Mikael... you have the reason.
I admire how you can "shup up" and ignore. because Anonynous is just a boy who annoys everyone by comments in Spain from an association who doesnt likes bike lanes bla bla bla bla...
really, i answer, he lives in Madrid, not in Seville, Madrid smells veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery bad, 6 millions everywhere by car (just the good thing is the subway). just him by bikes, i dont believe he respects the law, its impossible, absolutely.
Seville is continuing making segregated bike lanes, and yes, by destroying car parkings... bikes... up up up up and non stop.
next 19 september we'll cut to the traffic the main avenue arround the city centre to the pedestrians, activities etc called ciclovía (a tradition of Bogotá, Columbia)to try to put it here every sundays if its possible.
Next march 2010, velocity here, and them, in 5 years from 0,5% to 10% of population by bike and 0 to 120km bikes lanes.
I finish to show that this association of "anonynous" smeells very bad too, in madrid, where public bikes systems (like JCDecaux) are been deleted because of the crisis, that's logic.
Seville, with the 20% work stoppage (one of the worst of Spain and Europe) we don't stop...
Just excuses to grow bad....but grow, grow and grow the size of city. really sad.
The video is great, the music, more. I would like to make something similar, but now, at least i have a new nikon D300 to take good pics (i hope)
a year and a half after of this post with a video in Seville i say from seville to continue the conversation of comments...
first: Mikael... you have the reason.
I admire how you can "shup up" and ignore. because Anonynous is just a boy who annoys everyone by comments in Spain from an association who doesnt likes bike lanes bla bla bla bla...
really, i answer, he lives in Madrid, not in Seville, Madrid smells veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery bad, 6 millions everywhere by car (just the good thing is the subway). just him by bikes, i dont believe he respects the law, its impossible, absolutely.
Seville is continuing making segregated bike lanes, and yes, by destroying car parkings... bikes... up up up up and non stop.
next 19 september we'll cut to the traffic the main avenue arround the city centre to the pedestrians, activities etc called ciclovía (a tradition of Bogotá, Columbia)to try to put it here every sundays if its possible.
Next march 2010, velocity here, and them, in 5 years from 0,5% to 10% of population by bike and 0 to 120km bikes lanes.
I finish to show that this association of "anonynous" smeells very bad too, in madrid, where public bikes systems (like JCDecaux) are been deleted because of the crisis, that's logic.
Seville, with the 20% work stoppage (one of the worst of Spain and Europe) we don't stop...
Just excuses to grow bad....but grow, grow and grow the size of city. really sad.
The video is great, the music, more. I would like to make something similar, but now, at least i have a new nikon D300 to take good pics (i hope)
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Great! I think that I'll have to try more often to take pics of people going on their bikes in Sevilla...though, i'm not used to it and the pics are quite blur or not focused :-P
Take a close look to the tiny instant at minute 2.42 of the video. There you can see an anonymous cyclist properly riding his bike on the road like the rest of the vehicles. There he can go as fast a he can (or traffic permits), using his right to use the public roadway and attending to his duties as a driver of a vehicle.
Meanwhile the second class citizen that is the main character using the bike paths on the sidewalk has to be shown on fast forward to make it look as if he is going fast, because of course he can not go fast on such a dangerous facility. If he did, he could crash with a pedestrian, another cyclist or a car at an intersection.
I find the fact that the camera falls at the end of the video pretty ironic.
ah, the quirky vehicular cycling theory. a nice idea but it is, and always will be, a theory. A male-dominated theory driven by macho codes.
There is nowhere in the world where this theory is seen in practice. On the other hand, there are 100 million people who cycle daily in Europe, by and large on safe, separated infrastructure.
If you want large percentages of a population to cycle and reap the personal and societal benefits, all you have to do is follow the Best Practice that has been established and proven.
Fortunately cities around the world are now working towards this common goal - increasing trips by bicycle and doing so with bicycle-friendly infrastructure.
> ah, the quirky vehicular cycling theory. a nice idea but it is, and always will be, a theory.
Well, the term vehicular cycling might be new. However people have always been riding bicycles even in the absence of bike lanes or bike paths. As far as the law here in Spain is concerned bicycles are considered vehicles. The ministry of traffic collects accident statistics and the bicycle shows up in there.
In fact I think you got it wrong, first it was people riding, then someone wrote about the common used techniques and developed what you might call "a theory".
> A male-dominated theory driven by macho codes.
right, they call me Rambo and the roads here are the Vietnamese jungle. Every driver is crazy and is out to kill me. As you know there are no rules in that jungle.
> There is nowhere in the world where this theory is seen in practice.
Well except here in Madrid where I ride to work every day, and that guy in the video in Seville that you can barely see for a fraction of a second. Seriously, as I said before, people have always ridden bicycles, it is not a new thing only possible because of bike lanes.
> On the other hand, there are 100 million people who cycle daily in Europe, by and large on safe, separated infrastructure.
I am very interested to know where you got that number, please. You know it is pretty hard to come by with bike statistics I would
really appreciate it.
> If you want large percentages of a population to cycle and reap the personal and societal benefits,
Actually what worries me most is to be able to keep riding my bike safely. If they built a bike path next to the road that I use, it would make the road narrower, hence more dangerous to share with a car. They might even force me by legal means to use the bike path instead of the road that has nice asphalt and is well maintained (as it has happened for instance in Barcelona). Why in the world would I want that?
> all you have to do is follow the Best Practice that has been established and proven.
How about the goal to get any actual safety?
Aren't you concerned about that at all?
whatever. it's the same rhetoric from you people. heard it all before. complete nonsense.
a year and a half after of this post with a video in Seville i say from seville to continue the conversation of comments...
first: Mikael... you have the reason.
I admire how you can "shup up" and ignore. because Anonynous is just a boy who annoys everyone by comments in Spain from an association who doesnt likes bike lanes bla bla bla bla...
really, i answer, he lives in Madrid, not in Seville, Madrid smells veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery bad, 6 millions everywhere by car (just the good thing is the subway). just him by bikes, i dont believe he respects the law, its impossible, absolutely.
Seville is continuing making segregated bike lanes, and yes, by destroying car parkings... bikes... up up up up and non stop.
next 19 september we'll cut to the traffic the main avenue arround the city centre to the pedestrians, activities etc called ciclovía (a tradition of Bogotá, Columbia)to try to put it here every sundays if its possible.
Next march 2010, velocity here, and them, in 5 years from 0,5% to
10% of population by bike and 0 to 120km bikes lanes.
I finish to show that this association of "anonynous" smeells very bad too, in madrid, where public bikes systems (like JCDecaux) are been deleted because of the crisis, that's logic.
Seville, with the 20% work stoppage (one of the worst of Spain and Europe) we don't stop...
Just excuses to grow bad....but grow, grow and grow the size of city. really sad.
The video is great, the music, more. I would like to make something similar, but now, at least i have a new nikon D300 to take good pics (i hope)
:)
www.sociedad-sostenible.blogspot.com
a year and a half after of this post with a video in Seville i say from seville to continue the conversation of comments...
first: Mikael... you have the reason.
I admire how you can "shup up" and ignore. because Anonynous is just a boy who annoys everyone by comments in Spain from an association who doesnt likes bike lanes bla bla bla bla...
really, i answer, he lives in Madrid, not in Seville, Madrid smells veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery bad, 6 millions everywhere by car (just the good thing is the subway). just him by bikes, i dont believe he respects the law, its impossible, absolutely.
Seville is continuing making segregated bike lanes, and yes, by destroying car parkings... bikes... up up up up and non stop.
next 19 september we'll cut to the traffic the main avenue arround the city centre to the pedestrians, activities etc called ciclovía (a tradition of Bogotá, Columbia)to try to put it here every sundays if its possible.
Next march 2010, velocity here, and them, in 5 years from 0,5% to
10% of population by bike and 0 to 120km bikes lanes.
I finish to show that this association of "anonynous" smeells very bad too, in madrid, where public bikes systems (like JCDecaux) are been deleted because of the crisis, that's logic.
Seville, with the 20% work stoppage (one of the worst of Spain and Europe) we don't stop...
Just excuses to grow bad....but grow, grow and grow the size of city. really sad.
The video is great, the music, more. I would like to make something similar, but now, at least i have a new nikon D300 to take good pics (i hope)
:)
www.sociedad-sostenible.blogspot.com
:)
Juanma.
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