15 September 2010

Ignoring the Bull - With a Super Bus


Talk about ignoring the bull in the china shop! The Chinese have developed a Super Bus in an attempt to ease congestion in Beijing. The bus is raised up above the road so that smaller vehicles can drive underneath it without having to stop.

A prototype will begin operations on a 6 km route in Beijing this December, according to TV2 News (in Danish).

What's the consensus on this idea? Good, bad, silly? Comments, please.

17 comments:

ndru said...

With the amount of infrastructure this kind of vehicle would require it would probably be a better idea to introduce a underground train system. Such systems are also super accident prone especially when vehicles beneath want to turn left or right (get out of the bus lane).

Fredrik said...

http://www.capitalbikeshare.com/

Washinton D.C starts bikeshare project next week.

kfg said...

It's a bit depressing, since I've been wishing lately that my local trains would simply add a car with bike racks, instead of making me BOX the bike and not even guaranteeing I'll be allowed on with it.

Trains and bikes go together so naturally; trains and cars are mutual alternatives that don't. If you want a car at the end of your train ride - hire one. Problem solved.

Mikael said...

The main point the Chinese make is that this system is a fraction of the cost of an underground train system.

Anonymous said...

It's an interesting idea, which could incorporate the advantages of railed-surface transit and underground metro trains. I am concerned as to whether convenient access to streetlevel and streetscape is lost though, and I wonder if seniors, handicap, or anyone else with mobility issues could be inconvenienced.

Neil said...

It's innovative. I'd be interested to find out to what extent it increases traffic accidents. But, of course, I don't expect the Chinese to release reliable data, particularly if it's unfavourable.

Otherwise, it's a good solution to the problem without forking over the cash for underground tunnels (though that would be the ideal solution).

I can't imagine that boarding at an elevated platform is any more inconvenient for the handicapped than boarding at underground platforms.

eD said...

Fucking stupid for too many reasons to list.
Reminds me of the moron who came up with this idea...
http://www.inhabitat.com/2010/01/14/flying-bicycle-lanes-lets-your-soar-above-traffic/

Andrew Oakland said...

Great idea! But it's missing the monster truck wheels in between the rails. Well, at least that's what I was thinking when I read "bus that drives over cars."

didrik said...

This is a sad statement for humanity. That we are so desperate to have cars in our environment that we waste time and energy on solutions to problems that shouldn't even exist. It is losing site of the real goal of creating a living space where the things you need are accessible. It also shows human's unique ability to completely overcomplicate the world and their lives with "technological improvements".

World: Wake up and smell the exhaust fumes already.

didrik said...

This is a sad statement for humanity. That we are so desperate to have cars in our environment that we waste time and energy on solutions to problems that shouldn't even exist. It is losing site of the real goal of creating a living space where the things you need are accessible. It also shows human's unique ability to completely overcomplicate the world and their lives with "technological improvements".

World: Wake up and smell the exhaust fumes already.

Anonymous said...

Um...how does it turn a corner? What happens to the cars underneath it if it does? Val

Glenn said...

If it weren't such a waste of money it would just be hilarious. As it is, it's kind of pathetic.

Glenn,
Marrowstone

Anonymous said...

I'm a professional transportation planner. We would never let vehicles traveling at high speed (i.e. certain trucks) that could dislodge a support pier speed underneath an elevated railway. What would be comparatively lightweight supports for this vehicle in the legs are probably one cell phone talking/texting/drinking&driving heavy vehicle operator away from a grisly accident.

Others are right about all the issues of preserving space for cars at all costs and the type of thinking that leads you to this situation.

Unfortunately, I am afraid that people will be seriously injured or die when they implement this.

Anonymous said...

amazing, and when these get jammed up we'll build even bigger ones to go on top of them

kfg said...

@Anon 22:41 I'm afraid you're probably right, even though it would make a lot more sense to fill in the lower deck and let (OK, force) the cars to motorpace behind it.

I mean, what the hell are they building a train that goes slower than the cars for in the first place? OK, I actually know the answer, but what intrigues me is that's the one thing the demo videos do NOT seem to show (it's so cars can pass underneath it while it's MOTIONLESS at the platforms).

Anonymous said...

It seems like the concept could equally well let the bus pass over stalled traffic as it would let other traffic pass the bus. (If implemented right to accomplish that.) Then it could attract people away from cars to the bus by offering a way out of the jam.

form 2290 said...

It's a super bus indeed. But in choosing heavy vehicles, you should know the ins and outs of it. Not to mention you have to pay tax for it, being above 55,000 lbs and all.